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  Are we using too many acronyms?

  by Coded Logic in

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  ever wondered how your post might read to someone who's new to this site?.

  (may take you a sec to get the real acronyms that are being used).

  well i've noticed a pattern where a lot of ostentatious peoples that talk about their tough ass tax troubles only relate it to it as a problem that's being perpetrated by the federal & democratic states.

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  I agree SBF. Though I do sometimes enjoy how certain members have hijacked the WTs loaded language and have made a complete mockery out of it.
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  All Hail Our Robot Overlords

  by Coded Logic in

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  absolutely amazing how fast this technology is advancing.

  at the darpa challenge last year the robots could hardly walk up right and it took them ten minutes to walk through an open door frame.

  now they're running around outside and opening doors like a pack of velociraptors!

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  The trailer looks like How To Train Your Dragon but with robots . . . I'm so sold!!!
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  For those of us creationists who don't know anything about evolution

  by truth doubter in

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  cofty- perhaps you would like to teach us the "first thing about evolution".. truth doubter .

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  Wow TruthDoubter, you have quite a hostile crowd here. I wonder what you did to get everyone so riled up?

  No matter, let's start with the basics of what evolution is. Evolution is a scientific theory that explains the diverse speciation we observe on our planet (in other words, it explains why there's so many different kinds of life forms). Much like Atomic Theory explains how matter is made up of discrete units (atoms) the Theory of Evolution explains how species change over time.

  The nuts and bolts of evolution are that genetic mutation along with selection slowly change a species. This is because animals* that reproduce pass on their genes. And animals that don't reproduce don't pass on their genes. Some animals within their species will be better a reproducing and thus their genes will spread more. Over time, the genetic material that gave them that animal an advantage will spread throughout the whole species.

  Now, to go slightly deeper, we can look at the two mechanisms of evolution. The first is mutation. Genes are never copied perfectly. Thus the offspring of an animal will always have slightly different genetic material from its parent(s). Sometimes this new genetic material puts the offspring at a disadvantage and the offspring isn't able to reproduce - so the "bad" genes will not be passed on. Sometimes the genetic material has no discernable effect - so the offspring is able to reproduce just as well as its parents. And sometimes the genetic material gives the offspring an advantage - in which case it's able to produce more offspring. And those offspring will also have that genetic material that gives them an advantage so they too will reproduce more offspring. Etc. Until the whole species has this new mutation.

  The other basic component of evolution is selection. This is broken down into three types:

  1.) Natural Selection. Animals that are better suited to their environment are more likely to survive. And animals that can survive can reproduce. While animals that can't survive in their environment will not reproduce.

  2.) Sexual Selection. Animals that that are able to attract a mate are more likely to produce offspring. And animals that can't attract a mate won't reproduce offspring.

  3.) Artificial Selection. Animals that have desirable traits are more likely to be selected to produce offspring. Whereas animals with undesirable traits are less likely to produce offspring.

  So the mutation provides new features to the animal and the features that are advantageous are "selected" by one (or more) of the above processes. Thus, species change over time.

  Sometimes a single species in two separate environments will drift apart genetically as genes selected for in one environment are not selected for in another. If the two groups of the species become isolated from one another for long enough their genes will diverge so much that the two groups are no longer able to produce viable offspring together. We see this going on with Tigers in Asia and Lions in Africa. They used to be one species but since the continents split Lions and Tigers haven't been able to share genetic information. And what was used to be one species is now two species. And mating between them produces sterile offspring.

  If you take away only one point from everything I've written please let it be this: Individual animals don't evolve. Species evolve.

  Well, I think that's a good start. Perhaps someone else would like to take it from there. If you have any questions feel free to ask on this thread of PM.

  *I'm using the word "animal" to signify a single individual of a species and not a taxonomic group.
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  Are we using too many acronyms?

  by Coded Logic in

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  ever wondered how your post might read to someone who's new to this site?.

  (may take you a sec to get the real acronyms that are being used).

  well i've noticed a pattern where a lot of ostentatious peoples that talk about their tough ass tax troubles only relate it to it as a problem that's being perpetrated by the federal & democratic states.

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  Ever wondered how your post might read to someone who's new to this site?

  (may take you a sec to get the real acronyms that are being used)
  

  Well I've noticed a pattern where a lot of Ostentatious Peoples that talk about Their Tough Ass Tax Troubles only relate it to it as a problem that's being perpetrated by the Federal & Democratic States. But, it seems to me, this is rather one sided because the vast amount of peer pressure to "conform" comes from the Republicans & anti-Federalists. No doubt I completely understand that many members perceive themselves to be under the thumb of the Barack Obama Empire and have to adhere strictly to the Welfare Taxes but we also have to remember that the God Believing aren't the sole directors of everything that's going on. It's mostly people who are following other people . . . and I don't think that being Duty Filled should excuse the actions of those insisting others conform as well.

  I've also noticed that since the dissolution of the Rational BureauCrats and the airing of the Awful Republican Candidates many Jerrymandered Western states are starting to question what's going on. But in the end it's the same old same old as the Corporate Overlords just try to distract the Black Oppressed Electorate to look at more of the Numbingly Whacko Trump and not think about what's really going on.
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  Proof of false prophecies...in pictures

  by rebel8 in

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  post photographic evidence of dubs' false prophecies.

  i'll start:.

  the preaching work will conclude in the 20th century.

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  EZEKIEL 26:
  From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar[b] king of Babylon, king of kings,with horses and chariots, with horsemen and a great army. 8 He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you. 9 He will direct the blows of his battering rams against your walls and demolish your towers with his weapons. 10 His horses will be so many that they will cover you with dust. Your walls will tremble at the noise of the warhorses, wagons and chariots when he enters your gates as men enter a city whose walls have been broken through. 11 The hooves of his horses will trample all your streets; he will kill your people with the sword, and your strong pillars will fall to the ground. 12 They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea. 13 I will put an end to your noisy songs, and the music of your harps will be heard no more. 14 I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.

  
  

  Except of course that King Nebuchadnezzar never managed to breach the walls of Tyre. It wasn't conquered until 200 years later by Alexander the Great. And, of course, the city was rebuilt.

  Double fail Ezekiel

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  All Hail Our Robot Overlords

  by Coded Logic in

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  absolutely amazing how fast this technology is advancing.

  at the darpa challenge last year the robots could hardly walk up right and it took them ten minutes to walk through an open door frame.

  now they're running around outside and opening doors like a pack of velociraptors!

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  FTS, hahahahaha, robot christians - sooo true!
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  Do you still believe in God?

  by FormerlySandL in

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  i never thought i would admit it, but i don't.

  i might superstitiously have some kind of doubt but digging a bit deeper in my heart i really don't believe in god.

  as a human i could never just sit and watch people be tortured, live years of abuse, suffer from illness and disabilities and all the other awful things people have to endure day after day without doing something about it.

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  I have two basic rules when engaging people online:

  1.) Don't take what they say personally

  2.) Don't make it personal - attack their arguments not their character

  
  But I have to say Acts5v29, you really are testing my patience on both fronts. Some of the things you have stated on this thread - and throughout this forum - are so disgusting and so vile and so morally bankrupt I can't help but worry about the horrible actions you could justify under such perverse reasoning.

  Simply put, sincerity is not enough. In order to put our good intentions to positive use we actually have to understand how our actions will manifest themselves. And if you're going to dismiss all the evil in the world as non-consequential simply because "God will fix it in the end" then I'm not sure you're in a position to say ANYTHING meaningful about ethics. You have divorced yourself from all moral responsibility and accountability.

  If I say I'm going to buy you a new car in ten years time does it mean I have the right to wreck the car you have right now? Would buying you a new car in ten years make up for all the time you were without a car? Or if you and your partner can have more kids in the future does it mean I can kill the kids you have right now?

  Of course not. Because restitution isn't a moral system.

  What if the child were determined to hate his father who sent him for chemo? Even a child could understand that, in the longer term, there was a good reason.

  If a child is going to receive chemo treatments then we let the child know in advance. We let the child know exactly WHAT to expect and we make sure they understand WHY it's happening - that it's done to save their life. We don't just start them on chemo without warning and provide no help with their symptoms and then when they ask, "Why is this happening?" remain silent. That would be unnecessarily cruel and harmful.

  But this is the exact position we find ourselves in with regards to natural disasters. We can't anticipate them. We don't know when or where they're going to happen. We don't know why they're happening (outside of causal events). And THEY DON'T SAVE LIVES!

  They cause death and destruction and imense pain and suffering. It's nothing like chemo. And it's deeply troubling that you would think that chemo and natural disasters are comparable. I'm afraid superstition has vandalized your mind and completely corrupted your compassion.

  Come back to humanity my friend.

  P.S. I'm still waiting for your response on why it was okay for God to intervene in human affairs in the past but can't do so now.
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  This thread is for proof that God exists

  by juandefiero in

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  however, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?

  if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.

  (1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.

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  What does it mean if the universe is actually built in such a way as to result in a brain which can understand it?
  -SBF

  . . . Then it would mean that the universe was built in such a way that a brain could understand it. Starting with that assumption - that's the only conclusion we can reach.

  Perhaps a better question to ask might be, "Does a universe which can have complex systems that are capable of understanding itself (brains) suggest it was designed that way?"

  My short answer is - I dunno. Even if we gained knowledge that there was a Universe Creating Intelligence - we still couldn't conclude our universe was designed. Because we have no way of telling the difference between designed universes and non-designed universes. We have no metric via which we can look at our universe and say "look - it matches a designed universe" or "what-do-you-know, it matches a non-designed universe."

  We would have to know that MOST or ALL universes are created by a UCI to conclude that our universe was created by a UCI. At which point, the question of looking at intelligence inside a universe to infer if it's designed or not - becomes a moot point.

  Why is reality constructed in this way to result in these apparently predictable outcomes.

  Because subatomic particles behave in predictable ways. Because atoms behave in predictable ways. Because molecules behave in predictable ways. Because space/time behaves in a predictable way. Because reality behaves in predictable ways. Etc.

  As far as we know the laws of physics cannot be broken. I don't think it's necessarily "constructed" that way because I don't know if a universe can exist with a different set of physics or if a universe can exist without physics all together. But I would think that a universe without physics would tear itself apart pretty quickly.

  In regards to the larger questions your asking I think it's important to remember that the carbon atoms of which you and I are composed were first forged and manufactured in the heart of a dying star. We are quite literally the remnants of a stellar core. The children of a supernova. Because it's not just we who are inside the universe but it's also the universe that's inside of us. We ARE the universe . . . seeking to understand itself. And I feel the fewer assumptions we start with when asking questions about our existence the richer and more fulfilling our answers will be.
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  The Watchtower Org will die.

  by Freeandclear in

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  i was just reading through some posts and had a startling realization.. the comment that sparked this went something like this: why oh why when i started into this in 1989 did i not research the history of the wtbts?

  etc....... i too was studying and moving towards baptism around that same time.

  i got dunked in dec of 1990.. my thought.

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  My thought is that within the next 10 years there will be very little growth in the WT bOrg.
  -FAC

  Already there. The growth rate for Jdubs is less than the population growth rate. And the Jdub growth rate has been falling every year for at least the past 15 years. I think within the next two to three years we'll actually start seeing negative numbers.

  And of course most of the "growth" will be in the form of witness children who are born in.

  Only one in three JW children stick with the religion past their 20s. I think for the generation growing up in the religion right now the attrition rate will be even higher.

  Eventually this scam will die and to my mind the sooner the better.

  Agreed! It may take a while to die out but it will die out. It's top heavy in its number of older individuals. And those who are younger - the Millennials and their kids - may attend but really aren't into it. I think within the next fifteen years it will have half its current membership - around 4 million publishers.
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  lf evolution is true then doesnt it make sense that other life forms exist on far away planets.?

  by atomant in

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  just thought ld throw it out there for discussion.lf we evolved from nothing doesnt it stand to reason that other life forms also evolved from nothing?l mean lets face it time is infinite.

  so given enough time its possible for anything to happen isnt it?

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  We won't know until we get out there and look!

  But I would say there is a fair chance we could find life in the next couple of years (if it's to be found). Jupiter's moon Europa and Saturn's moon Enceladus both have liquid oceans under their icy surfaces. And both of them have ice volcanoes that eject some of the material from their oceans into outer space. In the near future we plan to fly a probe through the plumes and analyze the samples for microbial life.

  Another exciting bit of science is the James Webb Telescope which is going to be launched next year. It is a hundred times more powerful than the Hubble Space Telescope and will be able to analyze the atmosphere of exo-planets. If we find a planet with high oxygen rates then we will know that it harbors at least basic life - perhaps something similar to cyanobacteria - because high rates of oxygen in an atmosphere can only be maintained by life. Without a constant renewal oxygen will bond with hydrogen - the most common element in the universe - and turn back into water.